Excellent discussion here, thanks!

Personally I have found the winchester model 88 to be loaded to close to max loads. Hotter than a BLR or a savage 99. In .308.

My old 71 got sticky extractions had to stay mid book.

My marlin 1895 45/70 s seem impervious to the book.....I don't get it, they seem very strong.

I never tried to hot rod my win 1895 s.

My 356 ER did also well with top loads.

I will remember to not test my 94 356 AE for top loads.

BTW.....

The 30 U.S. or 30 Army is 30/40 krag

The 30 GOVT is the 3006 at least that is what I believe.

Last edited by Angus1895; 06/27/20.

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