I concur on the spartan stands for bow season. Rifle, big bulky and comfy worked for me. I do not sit in the trees anymore (but miss it) but if I did it over again (I always bought stands off season when prices went down) I would replace all the bolts and nuts with stainless and put in washers where necessary (quieter)before I put the stand up. As mentioned , I always used extra ratchet straps.