I have to agree with Karl on this one also. I compared actions side by side with him in his shop one day. I do not find the Stiller to be better in any way than a trued/sleeved Remmy 700 action. In fact, I personally find it not as good. Let me just say, in all fairness, that the actions I've compared it to were trued and sleeved by 3 pretty top smiths. One being Karl, the other 2 being Dwight Scott and Greg Tannel......

I still think the Predator's a good action for the money and would not shy away from one, but it is not the tightest IMO. When turned upside down, you can get the action to bind up, if you ram the bolt home hard. I've not been able to get any of the other 3 sleeved actions to do this..........

Yesterday I was toying with a Gre-Tan 17 PPC with a Pac-Nor super-match barrel. The sleeved action was one of the smoothest and tightest I've felt to date........