For a deer, at least a deer thats not huge, any dang thing you have. Packed out deer and half caribou with a cheap bass pro pack no frame internal stiffeners. Not biggy. Though the deer weren't far and the caribou was only 5 miles of tundra. Ugh. LOL.

For a moose hindquarter I've not found it yet. Most of the guys use Barneys frames. I dont care for them that much. I keep trying my kifaru long hunter frame and shelf and its ok. Not what I kept hearing to my mind but still works.

We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....