As a young teen doing odd jobs and saving every dime, I spent hours looking at the Herter's catalog. My first reloading press was a "C" type Herters. I think that I paid $69.00 for a J9 barreled action and fitted one of their French walnut stock blanks. The rifle shot very well. To feed that rifle, I used to buy bulk 4831 packaged in ice cream cartons by the LGS for .$50 / lb! Yea, I know this dates me!!