I've shot these as a factory load out of my 16" kimber montana. With the Thunderbeast ultra 7 i'm still getting 3000fps. I've shot one deer at about 200 yards and it looked like someone threw a two inch pipe through both shoulders. No meat damage, just a giant hole carved through the body. I wouldn't hesitate to kill an elk or moose with them at general hunting ranges.
Last edited by rcook10; 10/24/23.
