Best performing sabotted slug on Deere was the Remington Core Lokt ultras. No longer made. Hammered 70 plus whitetail at ranges from 20- 268 yards. All pass through except I finally caught one 12 ga slug in a 5 year old doe quartered to me at 192 yards. Entered front shoulder exited center back of the sternum and then into the offside lower ham rest in the hide in the back of the leg after shattering the femur. Farthest 20ga shot was 229 yards center lungs ran 10 yards. Clean pass through. All my scopes have hold over dots and spent a lot of time at the range. It sad they are no longer available but I have a stock pile of 20 and 12 ga core lokts when I found out they were discontinued. If I didn’t have them I’d probably use Barnes expanders.