Originally Posted by CTF
Originally Posted by pabucktail
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by pabucktail
Originally Posted by 79S
Ol joe want legendary bear guide used a double rifle down on kodiak when guiding clients. Here we are worried about 5 in the mag, here is a novel idea learn to shoot better, and make the first shot count. Pass me a model 70 classic in a 30/06 with either 180 partition or 200gr partition for kodiak i will use a model 70 stainless classic in a 375 H&H.


Your thinking is generally sound but there are some festivals where six rounds of .375 level power are handy, such as an aggressive sow brown bear with older cubs that decide to follow momma’s aggression. Six rounds are also nice when four deer come in to the call at once, or you meet a family of river otters.

So you are saying you can get 5-6 rounds off accurately at a charging brown bear? With cubs?


Each situation is different, but yeah, as needed I can and have put multiple rounds on charging brown bears. I've not yet fought one with the 9.3x62, but have used the H&H with 300gr Noslers alot. In my experience you shoot the middle of the brown blur coming at you with something big enough to make a difference. They don't like that. I always expect one to keep coming after they take a hit, and though it's happened to a couple guys I know, mine have always gone ass over elbows and then tried to run off. That's when I find it a good idea to keep shooting, alot, to prevent tracking. The exception is a sow with big cubs, in which case you should get the first bear incapacitated or dissuaded and then be ready to deal with the others. In these scenarios I find one can empty a bolt action rifle quite quickly. One time when a medium boar came at me I centered him at 12 yards. He fell down and tried to run off, whereupon I raked him with the remaining two rounds. He was still kind of ambulatory at that point so the quickest thing to do was throw another round in without pushing it into the magazine (thank you Model 70 classic stainless for your beveled extractor design!), slam the bolt closed, and shoot him again before he got out of sight, then reload.

So anyway, when I say I like more rounds available it's based on some experiences........

You'll like that 640 as a 9.3x62, I'm sure.



Agreed;
This is why I went to the 458 Winchester as my all around rifle. And some 416s . A 458 just Flattens bears. Where as the 375 and I'm sure the 9 3x62 will knock them down and hold them down for a bit. The 458 just kills them outright. With the same everything happening right now , Close range chest shots . And , with a 500 gr bullet at around 2100 fps , as long as you don't hit a big bone on a deer. You can litterly eat right up to the bullet hole. The 416s work like the 458.
With the Ruger M77 Mk 2 it's totally safe to pack them with a round chambered on full safe.
A lot of people haven't experienced the brown bears of the A B,Cs . They can't comprehend having to shoot for their life where if your lucky you have 18 feet of visibility. I talked to guides like Ben Forbes and Glen Morgan. Stuck with their advice and never regretted it.
I did not get the velocities from my CZ 550 Medium FS carbine that they do. I ran 250 gr X bullets at 2550. I would have liked to try a 300 gr Swift at 2400+ on a brown bear.

Back in about 2009, I had a cz carbine in 9.3x62 and a 375 ruger carbine. Sold the 375 ruger.

Stepped up to a 416 ruger and kept it for a good while. But when a box of ammo went up to $137 per 20, I sold that rifle as well.

With PRVI 9.3x62 brass running less than $50 per 50. And 325 grain norma oryx running less than $50 per 50, the heavy nine three handloads are affordable.

Anyhow, the 300 grain Swift A-frames over 64 grains of mr-2000 was my main handload for many years. But the price of those oryx bullets from ravenrocks can't be beat.

So twice now, the trim, affordable 9.3x62 mauser has outlasted the more powerful, more popular rifles. It's obvious why, and the 120 year old cartridge still has its advantages.

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