Hi Bill, where you at? I'm from Colden. I have Browning Hi-Wall in Hornet. I tried 12.5 gr. of lilgun with Hornady 45 gr.HP and got signs of pressure,- stretched cases, poor groups etc. backed down to 9.5 gr and put 3 almost through the same hole at 50 yds. Now I'll start working up again. What is your favorite load in the Hi-Wall? I just found this forum a couple of minutes ago, seems pretty good. I usually play with the 17M2. Till next time