I was sure I had a pic of some pictures from my scrapbook hung here somewhere that I'd used before in just this discussion. Elk at 80 yards, whitetail at over 400, all exits, all drt. In the parallel thread on the Elk Hunting forum I've been told how 160s and 175s are "better" than 140s but that just doesn't match my experience.

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You can no more tell someone how to do something you've never done, than you can come back from somewhere you've never been...