I found a pair of Banffs at REI on their scratch and dent rack for $69 a couple of years back. I agree with the above comments, quality construction, one peice leather upper, leather lined,... I don't know how long the previous owner used them but I had next to 0 break in. I wouldn't say the shank/sole is stiff, they aren't nearly as stiff as the Scarpa SLs I have.