having both and shot them successfully with heavier than thou' bullet weights they do have some ooomph but generally not enough to hurt. Some yrs. back I picked up a J.C.Higgins in a .30-338, done some load testing and found the Woodleigh 240grn. PP to be ideal for accuracies but found no recoil @ 2564fps. Perhaps it is just me..but I do know that when you up the powder charge to 90 plus grains in the heavier calibers then your getting into some shoulder "wow".
