This is why is use the term "claimed BC." One must always be cautious of these claimed values.

As for the 180gr LBT, in fact I find them to be dead-on with my come-ups. So much so, that I was really surprised at how accurate a computer generated sheet could be. I used JBM and he now has the proper values for the 180 LBT from JLK.

As for your last comment, yeah that may be the thing to do, but for right now I have enough JLK 180LBTs to last me another year of LR competition and enough Varget to do both LR and MR for another year or more.

I will keep my eyes opened for the Berger hybrids, however. Thanks a lot for the info.

But $300 for a pointing die? Grumble, grumble. That is one thing I like about the JLKs, they don't need no pointing die.