It is a known fact that the 30 Remington can be load at greater pressures than the factory loaded 30-30 and 30 Remington IN SOME RIFLES/ACTIONS, but certainly not in the Remington 14/141, Standard, or Stevens 425. While you could load the 30 Remington to greater pressure in a Remington Model 30 and, maybe in a 8/81, you can load the 30-30 just a heavy in a Remington 788 or Winchester 54. The 25, 30, and 32 Remington weren't, aren't, and never will be as popular as the Winchester offerings because of the limited number of firearms for which they were chambered and the limited distrubution of ammunition. Winchester just got too big a head-start on Remington and the U.S. was a mostly a lever action market when Remington was pushing pump guns and semi-autos.
I think that the 284 got a bad, and unfair, rap from Jack O'C. Being the most influential gun writer of his day, his opinion counted and he wasn't a 284 fan, so the 284 never really got off the ground. Add to that the fact that there were few bolt action rifles available for it, Browning and ???, to go along with the Savage 99s, Winchester 88s, and Winchester 100s.
Jeff
