For the price they are a hell of a gun. One little issue, they have had several versions of them, some have worked better than others. You want the model ending in VE. Some of the others haven't been all that good. Not the best trigger but they too, have gotten better. Never going to be a real target gun, but will certainly save your bacon. I like the 40 S&W better than the 9 but it is what it is. They are available new locally for $299. S&W has recently had some price reductions. If it doeesn't say SW9VE I'd pass on it.


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