Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
I like my actions to have an integral lug and pic rail machined into the action. I especially don't want the action having a separate recoil lug, to me thats just dumb with a custom action. machine the freakin lug in I say or just buy a remington.

I need some advantages over a stock remington and those are the one I require. with that said BAT and surgeon are the only actions that have both features that I know of.



Ruger has that (lug) and they cost tons less. grin



I love rugers, but they don't have hardly any goodies available for them. and gunsmiths don't like working on them or bedding them. even I have to concede though they are not the accuracy platform that a remington type action is.