Jocko, the win 150 HPs are quite expansive for a 30-30. I shot several hogs with that bullet and was surprised at the damage compared to typical RN 30-30 pills.

RJY, I've had about the same performance from both 150s and 170s on close range kills. At 30-30 MVs I personally just go with what shoots the best.

I shot a buck qtring to at around 30yds with a 150 Cl. Smashed the shoulder, took out the goodies, and came to rest at the hide near the back of the off side ribs. Text book mushroom with good retention.

I also shot through a sapling about 10 foot from a big 8pt with a 170PP and the bullet still went in the buck enough to break his neck in front of the shoulder. Would a 150 have done that? IDK. Got lucky to even hit him(didn't see the sapling in the dark timber).

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