Thats right E, in one breath he is singing the praises of 257Wby and 25-284 the next 338 Ultra, and then has the audacity to advocate the 7-08. You cant incite riots by praising Ackley and then talk about the 7-08! Doesnt he know that there are four classes of hunters: light and fast, heavy and fast, slow and heavy, and the wusses who use 30-06's and the like? You cant like them all! He has three of the four covered! Where will the madness end? [Linked Image]