This year I used Winchester Blindside, Kent Faststeel, and some Winchester X-Perts all in #2. I also used a Patternmaster long range choke in my Beretta 390. I had very few cripples no matter what the load. The Blindside stuff worked very well. I made several 40+ yard shots this year. I am going to get an extendd range tube next year for the early morning Wood Duck flight where they sometimes fly very high.