Thanks, David. I think I had read that somewhere before when waiting for my rifle. I found a few threads on here from Brad Arnett too with some 105 amax loads.

805 - thank you. I'll give the 4831 a whirl with the 85's. I know the VLD's have a strong following, but I sold all mine when I had a few blow up on the outside of a trophy muley in Montana a few years ago. Probably wouldn't happen again, but just one of those mental blocks my stubborn mind can't get around.