61 is mega prime. Hold out for a monster. They haven't made a bull yet that can handle a 165 TSX thru the boiler room. Relax, go enjoy watching your Dad whack a biggun. RustyL
Ya know, this is refreshing. I have read the forums here and there for years, usually pops up in a search but I only joined today. At my other 2 regular haunts, people would burn you at the stake for hunting elk in a .308 of any kind with anything less then a 180gr, 200-220 being even better. I have killed several elk with 165gr bullets of a few flavors, and never saw why everyone is so dead set on ancient (for modern hunting rifles at least) ideas that only the biggest, longest, heaviest bullets available will go more then an inch into an elk.
