Don't know why some guys kick John in the balls when he takes time to write and then answer your questions.He has forgotten more in the shower this morning than most will ever know.

I have found elk to be one animal that will cling to life after a good shot more than the rest.At the same time I've yet to see any NA game animal soak up lead like a moose.But they normally turn around and die.

At first I wasn't a huge NP fan.Partly because of my ignorance of the design.Guess I was one of those bullet failure guys with dead game.

All in all it's about all I use now except E Tips in 30 cal.Also have only encountered one pedal in some burger from a Failsafe.