AH64guy, Thanks for the reply, you obviously know this rifle very well, I did email the guy about this one and although he said the condidtion is factory new he said the rifle had been fired a time or two, I think I will take your advice and look for a nice used Renegade in the $200.00 range............The Cougar is a most beautiful rifle though, it might be more what you are looking for.................Thanks Hb
