before the food saver and even now we fill zip lock bags with "said food item" and dip the bag in a bucket/catch of water - the water presses out pettery much all the air and if u get some water in the bag ...so what..........and chest frezzer without a defrost cycle is best....some, like mine have a manuel button u pull when it comes to cleaning time......my .2 cents


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