My 6.5lb 300 ultra without a brake. I have a marlin 1895 in 45-70 that kicks something fierce when stoked with lots of varget under a 400gr Speer. It really helps that it has no recoil reducing pad of any kind on it. Those two make most my 8.5# 375h&h feel Iike a spit wad shooter.

Originally Posted by BrentD

I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.