I had heard the same thing about hi point. S"tay away from them, they are cheap, they are a waste of money" But I just kept seeing them out there. One day I saw the hi point carbine on sale and thought that would be a nice little plinking gun, so i bought it. Thousands of rounds later I have had absolutley no problems with it. No FTF, FTE, jams, etc. Not to mention the thing is very accurate. I say if you need a plinking gun go for it!!!!