I must add here that although some may think the manufacturing techniques for the North Fork bullets add to the cost and is inefficent, I have hands on experience in the manufacture of them. I have seen the testing of them against other "premium or dangerous" game bullets and they are in a league of their own. I use them whenever I will be hunting in bear country as they out penetrate any bullet I've ever used in nearly 50 years of hunting. They open up rapidly but NEVER come apart! When hunting mixed game or in a area with dangerous game the "North Fork" is the only bullet I will trust!