I second what Alex38 recommends. The Meopros work well for me. I have two, both are 4x12x50s and have the #4 reticle. The fine lines on these may be a tad too fine. Don't know how that compares to the thickness on a duplex version. I also have a couple of Zeiss conquests. These two product lines are very similar. I'd have to give the edge to Zeiss conquest.