apreciate the hands on experience Pat, only seen pics....may look at getting the Ruger in 450-400 ive always wanted instead......did not expect the Chiappa's to be of Shiloh or C. Sharps quality but was hoping it would be serviceable.....sounds like it aint even that....sincerely appreciate the input even if it crushed my idea...living in BFE i often cant actually get my hands on them unless i commit to buy and have the local shop order it for me....

Last edited by rattler; 04/01/14.

A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books