I had a Winchester pigeon grade side X side in 12 gauge built by Miroku and I can't remember the model number as I type this. I had the mod and full chokes reamed to skeet I and skeet II for skeet and 5-stand shooting. The butt stock profile was for more for a hunting gun than clay shooting and the gun just beat me to death.

I never really had a recoil issue before with any gun except for
a 12 gauge Belgium Browning in college. I sold the Winchester to the first guy that looked at it twice. I paid $1,200 for the shotgun in the box and "sold" it for $850.00....my shoulder made me do it!!!

Of course with light 7/8 and 1 oz loads that I shoot now I would likely still own the gun. Oh well....I still love my Parker Gun.

Doc