BT, 2650 miles West, 100 mi. NE of the fires that burned Pateros, WA. Thanks I really do appreciate it. I lived/worked the family ranch (not big 400 pairs) for 50 years I have made small parts before. A lathe would be great but a $50 drill that I use for the same thing on a weekly basis doesn't bother me to burn up. Delta Gun Shop is 5 miles away but I lean on Jim waaay too much as it is (he is the greatest!). If I could buy new ones I would but as they are simple round objects they should be easy to make and as I have made barrel band sling bases w/a file before I should be able to do this. My first thought was to heat and draw a suitable sized drill bit, form, heat, quench and polish but I don't know what I would end up with. BT funny you should offer that as Jim said the same thing when I was cutting relief grooves in orig. X bullets w/the drill in 250 gr. .338 and a lathe tool in ViceGrips . Any way thanks to all-Muddy