My experience with Bergers is limited to 130 gr. 6.5s and one 168 gr. 7mm . I have killed antelope and one hog with the 130 gr. bullet. and everything has went right down. Internal damage was as advertised...... I did have one antelope that I shot, with a poor wind call that was hit too far back and it just stood there. Damage was enough to completely immobilize poor goat. Just not instantly fatal and not the bullets fault..... I never shot anything close with them but from 200-675 yds they have proved themselves to me....