Tjm cars can pop up at very inopportune times but I have not seen a p-coat in Montana yet. smile

I guess I pick defensive ammo the same way I pick out hunting ammo. I dont want ammo that will be spectacular under one scenario and will not perform acceptably in other scenarios.

As someone else mentioned, about any current generation HP in a .45 will work but if pushed to picked one I would go with the 185 barnes as loaded by corbon or the Federal 230 HST.

Hunt hard, kill clean, waste nothing and offer no apologies.

"In rifle work, group size is of some interest...but it is well to remember that a rifleman does not shoot groups, he shoots shots." Jeff Cooper