It's all good to make fun of engineers or any other profession. I suspect a couple of the more vitriolic among you, would probably be shoveling crap behind the elephant if not for engineers. Yea, a lot of us are a bit socially retarded, how many mountain men or woods dwellers aren't? Doesn't make them bad or stupid.
The thing I find amusing sorta, is how some shop guys love to stand around and criticize the engineers, but ask one to step up and come up with something himself and they typically stare at their shoes and mumble something about it not being their problem. So driving the train ain't something they are even willing to do.
I do agree with humdinger, it used to be that you could design stuff and help it get built in the shop. Nowadays, you find the work, bid on it, design it, draw it, bid it, do construction management, and then do training, sales and service for a couple of years after. The career has changed a bit, of course depends on what field you are in.
Sorry for the sidetrack, some good jokes on this thread.....
