I havent found anything that is 100% foolproof. event stuff is good no doubt , but if you hike hard enough long enough ,you will get wet , or stand in the pouring rain long enough you will get wet. I live in a mountainous rain Forrest and have tried north face- worthless, sitka stuff - almost worthless , kuiu stuff - pretty good , Arcterex stuff - pretty good , westcomb (sp?)pretty good. There is no magic solution , but some are better than others, Breath-ability wise. Im sure someone has had better luck than me and knows more , I just haven't found it yet. Ofcourse i am referring to hunting rain gear