I think my pre 64 model 70 fwt's are just about ideal. However, I'm saving those for when I'm old and fat. Until then, I hunt the hell out of my classic sporters. They get the brunt of the hunting duties if truth be known. I can pack one of those around all day long with no worries. BTDT...I plan on using my 9+ pound 338 Alaskan next month for elk season. I really don't mind the heft and have never thought it was a hindrance. A heavier rifle holds steadier in the field positions I shoot in (offhand and sitting or kneeling).