I view it as for game under 400-500 lbs. all of them are more than sufficient i.e. you are not going to notice a big difference in results and if you do it will be most likely shot placement followed by bullet integrity. I can't buy the old I have experienced multiple deer run off with good hits story with either the 30-30 or the 45-70.

I myself have lost one deer in my hunting career and it was a doe hit with a cast 405 gr slug out of a 45-70. There was a lot of blood and a good trail and we gave her several hours to die but after jumping her 3 times while following her up she crossed onto a farm where we couldn't go. Cant be sure but I chalk this one up to a pulled shot certainly not a clean shot thru the chest area.

Last edited by bangeye; 10/23/14.