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Pair of 38-44s. Transitional 4" heavy duty 1947 production with numbered magnas. Post war short action 6.5" outdoorsman built in 53' with some kind of thumb rest stocks that I like the feel of but hate the looks. It's okay though a bud of mine recently gave me a really nice suede lined flap holster marked "Outdoorsman" that he bought for a K22, turned out it was for an N frame. The flap hides the grips so no one will see them:).