On a fluke I bought a Win Coyote Lite in .25 wssm, I loved the old grey box 120 gr PEP's, worked great on SW GA whitetails, I ran out and bought a few boxes of the Black box 110 gr accubonds. Almost as accurate as BT's and do a fantastic job on whitetails! I have recovered 3 so far, I have not weighed to check retained wt. but they hold together very well! I am sold on the accubond whatever cal. Im using the 160 gr in my 7STW and love the performance. I have not tried the LR version yet but no doubt my go to for any cal now! WinPoor