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Dan, The bullet isn't long enough for that COAL. It would be completely out of the case. Although, QuickLOAD's bullet database isn't always correct. It's best to measure a bullet and overwrite the defaults. I don't suppose you happen to have bullets cast from that particular mold that you could measure? At a COAL of 1.680" QL shows a seating depth of 0.620 (so fairly deeply seated). The .30 Carbine appears to have a neck length of right around 0.308". So with 100% neck tension that would give you a COAL of 1.992". Going as low as 75% neck tension (my personal minimum) would give you a COAL of 2.070". And I can't completely take the minimum load density out of the equation as 29% is lowest allowed. ***USE THIS DATA AT YOUR OWN RISK***Cartridge : .30 Carbine
Bullet : .309, 180, LEE C309-180-R
Useable Case Capaci: 16.677 grain H2O = 1.083 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.070 inch = 52.58 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 40610 psi, or 280 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Winchester 296 86.2 14.2 0.92 1711 98.8 40611 3445 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 87.3 13.9 0.90 1690 100.0 40611 3012 1.272 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 109.7 18.1 1.17 1685 87.9 40611 3614 1.265 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder- 7 108.5 16.1 1.05 1678 94.6 40611 3392 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 86.8 14.3 0.93 1671 99.7 40611 3168 1.288 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 101.9 14.3 0.93 1654 97.6 40611 3153 1.274 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 110.0 15.4 1.00 1644 98.3 36811 3205 1.308
Accurate 1680 95.1 15.7 1.02 1641 90.5 40611 3259 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 110.0 18.5 1.20 1638 84.4 38732 3535 1.301
Accurate 2200 107.2 16.7 1.08 1634 85.5 40611 3293 1.287 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 91.9 13.2 0.86 1633 94.8 40611 3188 1.289 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 100.0 14.1 0.91 1632 96.7 40611 3066 1.285 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 96.9 12.6 0.82 1626 100.0 40611 2699 1.296 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 110.0 15.2 0.98 1623 93.5 37852 3230 1.309
Hodgdon H4198 106.9 15.4 1.00 1609 88.2 40611 3079 1.297 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 78.6 12.3 0.80 1608 100.0 40611 2628 1.307 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 81.5 12.9 0.84 1606 100.0 40611 2708 1.305 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 78.7 11.5 0.74 1605 100.0 40611 2632 1.305 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 110.0 16.0 1.03 1590 90.1 31169 3415 1.393
Accurate No.9 69.2 11.4 0.74 1563 100.0 40611 2415 1.319 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 81.8 10.2 0.66 1537 100.0 40611 2284 1.328 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 110.0 15.8 1.02 1534 89.1 30736 3102 1.423
Accurate No.7 62.5 10.4 0.67 1533 100.0 40611 2226 1.334 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 110.0 16.4 1.06 1529 86.8 28125 3249 1.458
Vihtavuori N105 81.0 9.7 0.63 1492 100.0 40611 1998 1.357 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38 77.5 9.7 0.63 1480 100.0 40611 1987 1.356 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant POWER PISTOL 66.8 8.2 0.53 1479 100.0 40611 2053 1.354 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.5 50.8 8.8 0.57 1463 100.0 40611 1965 1.360 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HS-6 55.9 8.5 0.55 1383 100.0 40611 1665 1.409 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37 68.5 8.1 0.53 1373 100.0 40611 1646 1.419 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Longshot 53.2 8.2 0.53 1366 100.0 40611 1614 1.420 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot True Blue 52.7 8.2 0.53 1364 100.0 40611 1608 1.421 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540 51.9 8.2 0.53 1363 100.0 40611 1605 1.422 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350 71.2 8.0 0.52 1363 100.0 40611 1606 1.424 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO 77.3 7.5 0.48 1358 100.0 40611 1621 1.431 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP 57.1 7.6 0.49 1333 100.0 40611 1534 1.443 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette 56.9 7.6 0.49 1331 100.0 40611 1527 1.445 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE 69.1 6.9 0.44 1328 100.0 40611 1530 1.451 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BULLSEYE 61.3 6.2 0.40 1325 100.0 40611 1546 1.448 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2 51.1 6.6 0.43 1294 100.0 40611 1409 1.468 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340 68.1 6.9 0.45 1292 100.0 40611 1401 1.474 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal 64.9 6.4 0.42 1264 100.0 40611 1357 1.502 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N330 64.5 6.5 0.42 1250 100.0 40611 1301 1.515 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1250 70.1 6.4 0.42 1243 100.0 40611 1273 1.514 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 231 56.2 6.5 0.42 1239 100.0 40611 1281 1.518 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Zip 50.2 6.5 0.42 1239 100.0 40611 1281 1.518 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HP38 55.1 6.4 0.42 1231 100.0 40611 1261 1.524 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Nitro 100 68.5 5.5 0.36 1220 100.0 40611 1271 1.536 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant GREEN DOT 69.1 5.9 0.38 1217 100.0 40611 1243 1.540 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N320 64.7 5.8 0.38 1199 100.0 40611 1176 1.559 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1000 68.5 5.8 0.38 1198 100.0 40611 1194 1.554 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RED DOT 71.4 5.5 0.35 1193 100.0 40611 1197 1.563 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon TiteGroup 47.5 5.9 0.39 1187 100.0 40611 1162 1.565 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N310 56.6 5.1 0.33 1130 100.0 40611 1030 1.626 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Clays 69.1 5.1 0.33 1125 100.0 40611 1037 1.623 ! Near Maximum !
Cartridge : .30 Carbine
Bullet : .309, 180, LEE C309-180-R
Useable Case Capaci: 15.209 grain H2O = 0.987 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.992 inch = 50.60 mm
Barrel Length : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 40610 psi, or 280 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Winchester 296 89.2 13.4 0.87 1671 98.2 40611 3199 1.288 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 90.5 13.2 0.85 1657 100.0 40611 2817 1.283 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 89.7 13.5 0.87 1633 99.4 40611 2950 1.304 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 104.8 13.5 0.87 1608 96.6 40611 2904 1.295 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder- 7 110.0 14.9 0.97 1604 92.6 38204 3066 1.324
Accurate 1680 97.8 14.7 0.96 1592 88.9 40611 2972 1.307 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 100.2 11.9 0.77 1592 100.0 40611 2518 1.310 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 102.9 13.2 0.86 1587 95.6 40611 2819 1.306 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 94.5 12.4 0.80 1587 93.6 40611 2925 1.311 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 110.0 16.5 1.07 1585 84.5 37142 3185 1.338
Accurate 2200 110.0 15.7 1.01 1580 83.6 40611 2981 1.312 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 81.2 11.6 0.75 1574 100.0 40611 2451 1.323 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 81.3 10.8 0.70 1569 100.0 40611 2454 1.323 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 84.1 12.2 0.79 1569 99.9 40611 2524 1.324 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 109.8 14.5 0.94 1559 86.5 40611 2796 1.322 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 110.0 14.1 0.91 1553 96.5 33272 2894 1.383
IMR 4198 110.0 13.8 0.90 1530 90.7 34645 2865 1.383
Accurate No.9 71.4 10.7 0.69 1529 100.0 40611 2246 1.337 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 84.3 9.6 0.62 1504 100.0 40611 2120 1.347 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.7 64.5 9.7 0.63 1500 100.0 40611 2066 1.352 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 110.0 14.6 0.94 1491 86.6 27974 3008 1.479
Vihtavuori N105 83.8 9.2 0.60 1463 100.0 40611 1853 1.374 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38 79.9 9.1 0.59 1449 100.0 40611 1839 1.376 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant POWER PISTOL 68.9 7.7 0.50 1448 100.0 40611 1901 1.373 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 110.0 14.4 0.93 1440 85.7 27770 2728 1.508
Accurate No.5 52.3 8.3 0.54 1431 100.0 40611 1817 1.381 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HS-6 57.5 8.0 0.52 1352 100.0 40611 1535 1.431 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37 70.4 7.6 0.49 1344 100.0 40611 1518 1.441 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Longshot 54.7 7.7 0.50 1336 100.0 40611 1487 1.442 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot True Blue 54.2 7.7 0.50 1334 100.0 40611 1481 1.444 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350 73.2 7.5 0.48 1333 100.0 40611 1481 1.447 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540 53.3 7.7 0.50 1333 100.0 40611 1478 1.445 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO 79.5 7.0 0.45 1328 100.0 40611 1494 1.454 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP 58.6 7.1 0.46 1303 100.0 40611 1412 1.467 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette 58.4 7.1 0.46 1301 100.0 40611 1406 1.469 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE 71.0 6.4 0.42 1299 100.0 40611 1408 1.475 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BULLSEYE 62.8 5.8 0.38 1295 100.0 40611 1422 1.473 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2 52.4 6.1 0.40 1264 100.0 40611 1293 1.494 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340 69.8 6.5 0.42 1263 100.0 40611 1286 1.500 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal 66.5 6.0 0.39 1235 100.0 40611 1246 1.529 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N330 66.1 6.0 0.39 1221 100.0 40611 1194 1.542 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1250 71.8 6.0 0.39 1213 100.0 40611 1166 1.542 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 231 57.5 6.1 0.40 1209 100.0 40611 1173 1.546 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Zip 51.3 6.1 0.40 1209 100.0 40611 1173 1.546 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HP38 56.3 6.0 0.39 1201 100.0 40611 1154 1.553 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Nitro 100 69.9 5.1 0.33 1190 100.0 40611 1162 1.566 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant GREEN DOT 70.6 5.5 0.36 1187 100.0 40611 1137 1.570 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N320 66.1 5.4 0.35 1169 100.0 40611 1075 1.589 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1000 69.9 5.4 0.35 1168 100.0 40611 1090 1.585 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RED DOT 72.9 5.1 0.33 1162 100.0 40611 1093 1.595 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon TiteGroup 48.4 5.5 0.36 1157 100.0 40611 1061 1.597 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 91.7 6.4 0.42 1102 100.0 40611 923 1.665 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N310 57.6 4.7 0.30 1100 100.0 40611 936 1.663 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Clays 70.1 4.7 0.30 1093 100.0 40611 941 1.662 ! Near Maximum !
Hopefully you can find a safe load that meets your criteria. Don't blow yourself (or your firearm) up. 
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