I shot a TC renegade probably 200 rounds or more testing this and that for elk loads... and yes I"m a hair OT...

Would shoot about 4 inches best case at 100 wiht irons.

I sent it back to them.

They sent it back with a fired target, about 4 inches at 100, saying it was working perfectly and grouping fine...

Promptly bought a green mountain tube, and was down right at an inch wiht 565 grain slugs and 100 grains of powder... no tinkering require....


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....