I have owned multiple reticle types and keep coming back to #4 as my preferred. I see no purpose in an upper vertical post and think them them completely superfluous. Of the half dozen or so folks I have shown a #4 all have agreed on seeing on an improvement in acquisition time over a duplex. I even think a few did not know they were called 'German".
They may not be the cats meow for a lot of long range stuff, I can't say, but for shots consistently in the 50-150+ yd range they are in my book.
