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Looks like VHA has folded.
Hate to see it, but their later mags had lost a lot of appeal to many varmint hunters and they struggled. At one time, though, they put out a great product.
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Where did you hear this? The webpage is still up and running.
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The VHA SE Coordinator posted it on another site.
Try their phone --- disconnected.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I hope not, they just renewed my membership and took my money
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I hope not, they just renewed my membership and took my money Still have 2 years left on my subscription..
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Hell I hope you're mistaken. I still quite enjoy reading my copies of the mag. If they'd skid that LP Brenzy guy i could claim to read em cover to cover.
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Brezny is good for a chuckle.
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A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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The only magazine I get anymore is The Varmint Hunter. Like already noted, they have fallen off some the last few years, but still way more reading than most. No fan of Brezny either. I skip past his scribblings.
Too bad if they did close up.
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Do any of you losers have a link?
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The Editor, John Anderson, is a very good friend of mine. He and his wife Claudia stopped by to visit on their way through to Montana Saturday. He said a few days ago that Jeff and Jackie Rheborg called everyone in and said effective immediately, the Varmint Hunter Association has ceased to exist. No other explanations were given. Russ
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Website is down now.
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Sad to hear. I also know John and Claudia well, and knew that John had retired earlier in the year. Got a letter from the VHA saying they were looking for a new editor, but never heard anything after that.
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Well this is very Chitty news. Don't know what Im gonna subscribe to now for rifle shooting/ hand loading articles. The only decent publications i get are a shotgun/bird hunting oriented. Never woulda thought the VHA would just pack er in like that
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Seems awfully sudden. No letters? E-mails? Notification on the website?
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I am truly sorry to hear this. I have missed the Jamboree the last couple of years. My son and I always looked forward to shooting at them. We met Mule Deer and Eileen at the_last_one and got to sample some of Eileen's cooking. It was great.
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The association seems to have changed a few years ago when Jeff took over. I lost interest in it shortly after that
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Well there goes my life membership!! Totally sux, always looked forward to the new issues.
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I let my membership lapse for a number of years but renewed early this year.
I wasn't real impressed with what they put out.
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They needed more Shrapnel articles...
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They couldn't afford him.
Obviously.
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The association seems to have changed a few years ago when Jeff took over. I lost interest in it shortly after that +1
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Who ran it before Rheborg?
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I enjoyed the cartoons. Always paged through and found them all. Love a good chuckle.
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That stinks! I was going to stop by their office next month and check it out. Planning our first PD hunt north of Pierre!
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That stinks! I was going to stop by their office next month and check it out. Planning our first PD hunt north of Pierre!
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That stinks! I was going to stop by their office next month and check it out. Planning our first PD hunt north of Pierre! Double post due to site malfunction?
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It looks like the forum is still functional. There was a new post a few hours ago.
Retired cat herder.
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It looks like the forum is still functional. There was a new post a few hours ago. How are you viewing that? Their site is down. Travis
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There's at least one other forum called "Varmint Hunters," but it ain't part of the VHA. Google and it will come up.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I use to love that magazine, especially Steve Timm's articles. It was a great resource. I too lost interest in it. I can't explain it, but the articles just got cheesy. LP Brenzy had to go.
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Yeah. The Steve Timm era made for some damn good info. Amazingly good info actually.
I renewed this year and wasn't impressed with the POS they sent to my door.
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I have the first magazine still in the original jacket if anyone is interested...
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I have all the Magazine from Number One to Present Date.
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I put up my VHA mags for sale a year ago and could not get $2.50 each Not a complete set but most
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I was a member for I suppose 10-12 years and decided to not renew this year. Years ago I used to anticipate the arrival if the magazine and read it cover to cover. But I thought it had really declined in quality.
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Rats! I was thinking of renewing and getting caught up on the back issues. LP Brezny aside, there was always something useful you'd never see elsewhere. But I guess the component shortages and the fuel prices probably didn't help their advertisers. Dang I wanted those back issues and holes. I guess procrastination DOES bite once in a while.
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I use to love that magazine, especially Steve Timm's articles. It was a great resource. I too lost interest in it. I can't explain it, but the articles just got cheesy. LP Brenzy had to go. Yup -- Steve Timm was great. I STILL use the .223 powder (H335) he liked. Only difference is he liked 40 grain NBT bullets and I always preferred 55 grainers. Always wanted a Darrell Holland Walking Varminter like Steve had. Model 700, McMillian stock, PacNor barrel -- about a #3 or 4 contour and a VariX III. Beautiful
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Agreed on Steve Timm's writing, he has been one of my favorites. He had it nailed as far a walking varmint rifle build also. Pretty darned amazing - he found out what worked and stayed with it through thick and thin, not at all like most of us do.
As far as Brenzy - every time I tried to read one of his articles it was a WTF? There are a ton of bad writers out there but he has to be in the top two.
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I enjoyed it most when the articles were written by the average guy.. It was interesting in those days..
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I got a kick out of Brezny. Can't say I remember learning much from him but he was entertaining and provided a view of another lifestyle than I will ever have.
Poof! Just like Precision Shooting. I guess I can pretty much give up on cutting edge experimentation, manufacturing discussion, technical papers. Maybe I can find a good article on .270 vs. .30-'06 or how to pattern a shotgun (whatever those are), or something really juicy like how to clean my rifle.
If Rifle and Handloader pull this stunt I'm just going to step in front of a train.
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I enjoyed it most when the articles were written by the average guy.. It was interesting in those days.. Same here.
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I am a life member with them you would think I would have heard something from them , not have to read it on the internet , wonder what they will do with our club house and shooting range
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Guess I heard from them today,, anybody else get a letter from there Attorney?
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Oliver88: I have not "heard from them" - I am life member #185 - is the contents of your letter from them private? I guess what I am asking is are "we" being sued? TIA for any information (again if its NOT private). Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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sent you PM not being sued , can file a claim
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wonder what they did with the club house and shooting range ?
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This news is a bummer. It would have been a bigger bummer years ago; but, a bummer nonetheless.
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Oliver88: And others here, thank you for the explanation and links. Sad that the V.H.A. has gone away. I was a member since day one and previously with Varmint Hunters International (V.H.A.'s predecessor). I got much useful information and knowledge from them over the years - including many tips on where to Hunt Varmints. I would MUCH rather the V.H.A. resume its magazine and its club/association than receive a pittance of $2.00. Maybe one of you "young" and energetic (I am "old" and tired!) Varminters might take up in the "void" left by the demise of V.H.A. and its magazine? Again its sad anyway you look at the loss of this association. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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here's what the letter looks like:
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Got the letter yesterday. I thought it odd about the $2.00 thing and how little of value there was after creditors are paid. Then I read the part about the letter being from The VHA attorney.
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At the time that Jeff took over I remember reading the VHA magazine and the list of employees included his wife....I remember thinking that my membership dues seemed to be going so they and their friends would be able to hunt and play on my dime Soon after that I thought the magazine went downhill
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At the time that Jeff took over I remember reading the VHA magazine and the list of employees included his wife....I remember thinking that my membership dues seemed to be going so they and their friends would be able to hunt and play on my dime Soon after that I thought the magazine went downhill Totally agree with you; But Jackie(Jeff's wife) worked for VHA quite awhile before Jeff came on board.
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It is sad as the magazine was very good and that the trend is magazines are dying
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Got my settlement payment in the mail today anybody else get anything ?
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Got my settlement payment in the mail today anybody else get anything ? So,did you file a claim? How much was the "settlement?
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Yes filed claim , $10.00 cash , thought they would have sent a check so they had a record of it . letter didnt say much ether
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