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I just heard on the news some of the family members of some of the dead in South Carolina have said they forgive the shooter.
I don't think I could do that.
I can't fault them for following Christ's words.
I can say I honestly don't think I could go there, not for a long time, and maybe not forever.
I have long known there are folks who are better Christians than I am.
Sycamore
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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Somehow all that sweetness pisses me off. I'd be there asking the law to turn him loose so I could kill him.
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Arbitrarily forgiving the unrepentant is likely, in itself, a type of sin.
It ain't all burritos and strippers my friends...
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You would have to be from this state to understand. Definitely a Southern Christian thing. Especially, with the Southern Baptist.
With most, their forgiveness is genuine. But there's always that one hold-out.
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I wouldn't do it, but I was moved by the fact that they did
I hope that kid is quickly put out of his (and all of our) misery
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Forgiveness is for the victims, not the perp. It removes that feeling of hatred and allows the person to move on. The perp still has his own set of problems and he must answer to the Highest. Ro 12:19 Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Somehow all that sweetness pisses me off. I'd be there asking the law to turn him loose so I could kill him. ^^^^^^^ This
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New Testament, it works for them.
Me, I'm an Old Testament kind of guy.
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Christian forgiveness is not new. In his early years, the Apostle Paul martyred Christians. In his later years, Paul did much to spread Christianity and died a martyr.
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God can forgive him after I killed him.
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I just heard on the news some of the family members of some of the dead in South Carolina have said they forgive the shooter.
I don't think I could do that.
I can't fault them for following Christ's words.
I can say I honestly don't think I could go there, not for a long time, and maybe not forever.
I have long known there are folks who are better Christians than I am.
Sycamore Sycamore, I am fortunately/unfortunately cut from the same cloth. These folks are better than I at turning the other cheek. But, I would also ask God's forgiveness if the phugger were still on the loose. If you know how to work the bamboo telegraph, it rings loudly here in Urbania.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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God can forgive him after I killed him.
Kent Here we go......and they're off!!
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
MOLON LABE
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Interesting post. I reside in both states and was very close to both of these incidents.
Appropriate side-by-side.
Difference being Malvo and his accomplice did not care who they killed.
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Arbitrarily forgiving the unrepentant is likely, in itself, a type of sin. "I take no pleasure in the killing of the wicked." That's what He said. But look what He's done... All through the old covenant . And get ready what He promised for this new one, cuz it's coming. His mercy and love endureth forever,,, except for all who reject them.
BAN THE RAINBOW FLAG! PERVERTS OFFEND ME!
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File me with the OLDER ways,....
LOTS of "Smiting" and eyes for eyes.
This sweet and loving horsechit is enough to put one off of anything BUT strong drink,....dammit.
....just when I was starting to settle down (again).
GTC
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You would have to be from this state to understand. Definitely a Southern Christian thing. Especially, with the Southern Baptist.
With most, their forgiveness is genuine. But there's always that one hold-out. We're NOT from that State,....and things are viewed a bit different in ours, far as I can see. GTC
Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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Difference being Malvo and his accomplice did not care who they killed. I don't believe thats correct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo
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The way I see it, the forgiveness stuff is for yourself.
Holding onto hate will mess you up after a while.
Still. I'm not sure I could be genuine about it in a situation like this.
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