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After BurninDupont asked me about the ABLR I called Nosler. To my surprise the tech suggested not using them closer than 500 yards with the velocity I am getting. He said they are designed to open up clear down to 1,300 feet per second. These must be made for the 260 Remington. He said the have no feed back from the field at all.
I have a bunch of Barnes LRX 127 I will switch to them.
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No feed back from the field.
Yup. I bet Nosler just boxed these up without any pre-release field testing at all.
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I have a bunch of Barnes LRX 127 I will switch to them.
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boatanchor,
I'm not enamored by Barnes bullets. Never the less, I have killed a lot of game with them. But I know from talking to the Nosler tech, the ABLR 142 bullets will be used for for jack rabbits. They may over penetrate, but I can live with that.
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The .30 210's work under 500 yards at high velocity. Not apples to apples but then I didn't ask a tech before I shot stuff. mtmuley
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You better go call him, right now!
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The new Noslers won't make it through the standard body armor being issued to deer or elk with any consistency. 50% weight retention is like throwing a rock at them anyway. Maybe there are some DU rounds you could get your hands on.
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Regular AB's kill the livin' snot out of stuff anyway.
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It's all about velocity.
Pushed to hypervelocity, I think Barnes are better. And I'm talking about 26 Nos and the high performance rounds Ringman likes.
I found 120 TAC-X and 120 E-Tips to be more accurate than the 127 LRX, all three out shooting the 129 ABLR, which the 26 Nos was built around.
At more reasonable velocities, the ABLR should do well.
IMO,
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boatanchor,
I'm not enamored by Barnes bullets. Never the less, I have killed a lot of game with them. But I know from talking to the Nosler tech, the ABLR 142 bullets will be used for for jack rabbits. They may over penetrate, but I can live with that. The only thing that's going to over penetrate, is your bolt going through your head when you blow your rifle up...
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smokepole, no need to call him. Found out here on the internet that they don't work. mtmuley
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What did the Barnes tech say?
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JGRaider,
That's the bullet the tech recommended.
heavywalker,
Haven't called them yet. I didn't see a need to call them since no one told me they are soft.
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Short story about Nosler and their bullet advice-
When I was a young pup I went in Shooters Pro Shop on a Thursday afternoon and bought a 257 Weatherby with the oiled stock, 26" of course. Needed dies, brass, bullets, scope, mounts, the works, and got it all right there. Being young and even MORE full of myself I told them I was going to shoot a bear with it on Saturday. Mmm hmm says they. I opted for 100 grain ballistic tips against their advice. They said whatever you do don't shoot a bear up close or it'll blow up, (the bullet, not the bear). Well, Saturday I was on the mountain and low and behold snuck in on a bear huddled up and sleeping on the uphill side of a large tree. He died. The shot was 40 yards with the little Bee.
The bullet took out a couple ribs and fell out of the hide on the offside when I skinned him out. A more beautiful and perfect mushroom could not be made. So much for Nosler knowing all things about all situations with all cartridges shooting their bullets. That Weatherby broke all their rules and yet, the bullet performed perfectly.
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Just 'cause he's a sales clerk at Nosler does not qualify him for advice, but I'm also sure it never stopped him from giving it.
When BT's first came out I tried them in a .257 Roberts, and was not impressed. I've heard from others I should give them another try now though. I don't know if I'll live long enough to shoot through the pile of partitions I've got before I'll need to try something new.
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Don't overlook the 120g GMX.
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Don't overlook the 120g GMX. Wrong direction in BC.
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I am fixing to get some field results with the 142s any day now. They look really soft- should be interesting!
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This says that Nosler Accubond Long Range Bullets [ALBR]: http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2014/8/21/nosler-accubond-long-range-bullets/Nosler states that ABLR bullets readily expand at impact velocities as low as 1300 f.p.s. That is 500-f.p.s. slower than the company’s other big-game bullets and 300-f.p.s. slower than even Ballistic Tip Varmint bullets. That low-velocity expansion is achieved with a thinner jacket at the nose and a deeper cavity below the polymer tip compared to regular AccuBond bullets. On the fast end, Nosler states that ABLR bullets expand yet remain mostly whole at extreme velocities. Expansion is controlled by a jacket that thickens toward the rear and is halted by a solid base that encompasses the entire boat tail. The jacket comprises approximately 45 percent of the bullet’s weight and is bonded to the lead core to ensure bullet integrity.
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This is very encouraging. I will try a couple more powders and then do some penetration testing.
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