Curious what you guys are shooting this year for broadheads, and what you plan to shoot them at. I've shot ST's for several years now, but this year I'll be hunting with the Exodus heads. Got elk, whitetail,muley and maybe moose on the menu, and might even stumble into a black bear. No complaints with the slicks, but the Exodus is shooting a little better for me and seems quite a bit quieter in flight. We will see how it goes.....So what are you guys using?
Slick Tricks. Mostly Feral Hogs and WhiteTails. They fly truer than any other Broadhead I've tried.
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Slick trick viper's 125 for most game. 125 magnums as well they shoot identical.
However I am shooting rage hypodermics for some smaller species and always on turkeys. This invention is the ultimate Turkey broadhead.
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Muzzy 90gr 4-Blade. Elk, Mule deer and Antelope. Have taken 1/2 dz bulls and twice that many mule deer and a handfull of antelope with them on various arrows over the last 20 years. I have changed bows, arrows, nearly everything else but the broadheads have remained constant. I consider them the Nosler Partition of broadheads - there is new shinny (expensive) stuff every year but these get the job done and are proven. No need for me to change.
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QAD Exodus... Third year for my son and I to use the Exodus on whitetails. We have shot whitetail, turkey and coyote with excellent results. There are hogs in our neck of the woods but we haven't had an opportunity on a hog yet. Our bows are well tuned and the Exodus flys like a laser right to point of aim along with field points. I've yet to find one that wasn't razor shaving sharp right out of the box. I'd like to try the Slick Tricks but I have so much confidence in the Exodus and no reason to switch so I just bought another pack of QAD's for this year.
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Muzzy 4 blade 130 grain for Elk. These are so old I don't believe they make them any more. I still have quite a few of these I purchased many years ago and have had great results over 20 plus years of use. Tom
Compound 100gr Muzzy 3 blade - been using them for years, nothing fancy and gets the job done.
Crossbow 100gr Rage or 100gr Muzzy when I run out - Rage is bada$$. 2" of cutting blade, lays them open. Awesome. The problem is they're about $35.00 for 3, so I try to use my Cabella's points.
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Steel Force 100 gr. Phat Heads for whitetails here in PA....
I tried Steel Force about 10 years ago. They're pretty nasty, but I had some trouble with them flying straight on the longer shots, so I switched back to Muzzy's. They will do the job on the shorter shots though.
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Stos 160grn Two blade. From a 53# Blacktail recurve. Just got back from Canada bear hunt. Got a 6' bear. Shot completely through him with the Stos on a Sitka Spruce arrow from Paul Jalon.
I seem to be about the only one but I have always used Wasp 4 blade SST, I have had good luck with them and they are not too expensive. I use them for elk and deer.
100 gr 3 blade Muzzy, killing deer with them since 1994. Tried the NAP Killzones took a couple with them and had one not pentrate on a shoulder, went back to the old Muzzy 100. Why change good results.
My first bear with a mechanical came this weekend. Ive been very slow to actually use a mechanical on a big game animal. I've used them on turkeys for years. I think on turkeys they are the best invention in broad heads possible. The stiff quills snap the blades open and the light bones allow even a mechanical to crush and slice through them.
When I was given a pack of the hypodermics by another outfitter and asked to just give them a shot, I agreed that I would. At which point I had at least a few mechanicals here that I was fooling around with on the turkeys. The only one I liked and that functioned 100% of the time was the Rage, I don't know the model, It's green and has a half moon shaped razor on the tip.
It was too flimsy in my opinion to use on big game. Then when I was given the package of the Hypodermics, ...... well they were built like I would build something. These were heavy duty and sharp as possible. I used the practice head in the package to shoot with my field points. There was no difference in the POI. I used one of the functional heads to shoot a turkey, opened upon impact and before entry, this is a decisive function which must happen with a mechanical or it's off the list for me. Way too many designs open upon impact but after entry.
These leave a small entry hole, then open so big they take extraordinary power to exit. Thats a big problem if they don't exit. Now all you have is a bullet hole on the entry side. If from a tree stand it's a bullet hole up high too. The whole intent with this is an extraordinary blood trail after all.
So I shoot a bear with it, A nice big bear too, well over the 300lb mark and with a 19" skull. So it was a good test animal with a good size. The shot was 26-28 yards, from a tree stand. shooting down. I was 17 feet up to the bow, not the platform, so probably 14 foot to the platform. The steepness of the canyon puts me only 12-15 feet from the ground next to me at eye level on one side and with the creek on the opposite side below me the stand is probably 25 feet from the ground on that side.
I shoot 65 pounds with an Elite energy 32, 28.5" draw 440 grain arrows and getting about 285fps. I have video of this shot which is crystal clear. The arrow and the bright green Lighted nock went perfectly through the bears chest. The light disappeared, and in slow motion the bear has not moved or even realized it has been hit. Then a split second goes by and he leaps to bite the wound. At this point on the video the blood can be clearly seen pouring from the hole. In the next second he is full span stride running, with blood pouring from the hole and seen as a big red cloud under him in the video. Another long stride with the exact same big red cloud, and he was gone.
About 3-5 seconds go by and he can be heard giving up with the moaning sound typical of bears. When recovered he was not 50 yards from the shot. The arrow exited clean trough and was laying on the ground just beyond where he stood. This was as fast as a bear can be killed or stopped without a CNS hit. Even with a firearm I have seen many bears go this far or further.
So the rage hypodermic has done as well as anyone could expect on this. Better then I expected, but as I was hoping it would turn out. I will use one on my next bear as well. I have no opinion on big game where steep quartering shots, or bone impact is involved. However I have very little experience in those conditions with a fixed blade head either. I'm in a fortunate point in my life that if I don't like the shot I don't take it. There will be more chances. So I don't participate in the debates that mechanicals don't work in some conditions. I don't use them or any other broad head in those conditions to have concern with.
One other thought, I love the Switchback at 63 pounds and 265fps with 425 grain arrows. There is however a pretty significant difference with 65 pounds at 285fps with a 440 -450 grain arrows.
Only 2 more pounds of draw weight, but a nice increase in delivered power! This is the power level a guy needs to get the best performance from a mechanical. Sub 60 pound draw and light arrows I believe are the recipe for failure or poor performance. This is where I believe the controversy with mechanicals has it's roots. Mechanicals need more power.
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Well lookee what showed up in the mail today (along with my broad head target)....
Interestingly enough,mother local Sportsmans Warehouse had the 'old' packaging ST in standard and Magnum for $28. On te same shelf were the 'new' packaged ST including some Vipertricks.....$40!
Guess that yellow ink is expensive!
I'll be hunting Muleys with these as I drew rifle for elk and pronghorn.
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ive shot 20+ deer with Grim reaper mechs, broad side, quarter away, quarter to, straight on, never had one go over 50yards, had a few take 3-4 steps and fall over with blood shooting out like a horror movie, for whitetails/muleys/antelope i would use nothing else.
Muzzy 90gr 4-Blade. Elk, Mule deer and Antelope. Have taken 1/2 dz bulls and twice that many mule deer and a handfull of antelope with them on various arrows over the last 20 years. I have changed bows, arrows, nearly everything else but the broadheads have remained constant. I consider them the Nosler Partition of broadheads - there is new shinny (expensive) stuff every year but these get the job done and are proven. No need for me to change.
You fellas remember the old Dan Fitzgerald hunting shows? "Em muzzies is still sharp" what a load that guy was. I did always liked that they came with the practice blades. I'd say Bear Razorheads are more like Partitions, Muzzy's are Accubonds.
Muzzy Phantoms for me, mostly cause the 220 gr. ones match my 225 gr. field points and they are stainless. I like to be weatherproof when I camp out in the elk woods.
You fellas remember the old Dan Fitzgerald hunting shows? "Em muzzies is still sharp" what a load that guy was. I did always liked that they came with the practice blades. I'd say Bear Razorheads are more like Partitions, Muzzy's are Accubonds.
But, like bullets, most work just fine.
I do! I remember him shooting a mouse, INSIDE the cabin with his bow.
Mojo, Those viper tricks are the best penetrating broad heads I've ever used or seen used by my hunters.
Been a slick trick fan since the first version on the market a long long time ago. Gary really nailed the designs with this viper trick. The Cut on contact head design although not much visually, it a significant improvement on bigger game or with lighter draw weights. I've had them zip through every single time, even on wild hogs.
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Mojo, Those viper tricks are the best penetrating broad heads I've ever used or seen used by my hunters.
Been a slick trick fan since the first version on the market a long long time ago. Gary really nailed the designs with this viper trick. The Cut on contact head design although not much visually, it a significant improvement on bigger game or with lighter draw weights. I've had them zip through every single time, even on wild hogs.
That's good to hear!
I must say, as a retuning newbie to bow hunting on first glance that broad head looked waay too small to be effective on big game. That's why I do research, though, and all the pics and testimonials can't be wrong!
Sure hope I get a chance to add to those tales here in about a month...
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Last time for me was 20 yrs ago as a teen in WI. Had an old Indian if you remember those!
Getting back into it was a little intimating with all the new tech and gewgaws. I recognized that there was just as much hype in archery as any hobby so did a LOT of research to find something higher than entry level without going all out on a 'flagship' bow.
I also read enough to know a lot of guys were still harvesting a lot of deer with bows several years old or more so I knew I didn't have to have the latest and greatest (or buy a new one every couple of years).
I will say my Drive LT is far easier to shoot accurately than I thought it would be. I anticipated a really steep learning curve but I was pleasanty surprised how accurate and easy to shoot it's been (obviously, I can always improve).
There's definitely something very challenging and satisfying about shooting a bow. My rifles are just too easy!
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I'm finding that the best way (for me) is to have a "700, ADL, 30-06, 3x9 Leupold, 150 CorLokts" attitude to avoid the burnout like I've had dinking with rifles. I KNOW how easy it is to get wrapped up in it, and 5 minutes on archery talk will do it.
Ramcats....they fly dart/mechanical like in all my bows and crossbows, but cut big on entry like a non-mech, penetrate and handle bone well. Use some rage, also.
Muzzy 90gr 4-Blade. Elk, Mule deer and Antelope. Have taken 1/2 dz bulls and twice that many mule deer and a handfull of antelope with them on various arrows over the last 20 years. I have changed bows, arrows, nearly everything else but the broadheads have remained constant. I consider them the Nosler Partition of broadheads - there is new shinny (expensive) stuff every year but these get the job done and are proven. No need for me to change.
Those are the ones - just sent one through this guy Sunday morning. Went through him so fast, he looked up the hill at the clang the arrow made when it hit beyond him. Then he just walked off about 40 yards and dropped over dead. I never did find my arrow - not sure how far it went after passing through him.
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Grim Reapers!! Shot Muzzy"s for years and they killed a bunch of deer,had my local bow shop convince me to try Grim Reapers and I aint goin BACK!!! They KILL like nothin I ever seen!!
You shooting the regular 1-3/8" cut or the whitetail version? I've been shooting Slick Tricks for years with no issues but I do have some Reapers I've been thinking of trying.
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I'm finding that the best way (for me) is to have a "700, ADL, 30-06, 3x9 Leupold, 150 CorLokts" attitude to avoid the burnout like I've had dinking with rifles. I KNOW how easy it is to get wrapped up in it, and 5 minutes on archery talk will do it.
When I got back into archery 5 years ago I came out of the gate doing the gun nut thing -best of this -try that - different rings fit better ok i'll get some ----ended up with three bows -three different arrows -4 different sights etc.-etc.. I use one bow --the other two don't get touched they just sit and devalue down to nothing -they're a reminder to me to not do stupid stuff.
Slick Trick 100gr. standard.
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Depending on which bow I am using, either Slick Trick 100 grain or Slick Trick 125 grain. I use both for deer, antelope, elk and coyote.
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ive shot 20+ deer with Grim reaper mechs, broad side, quarter away, quarter to, straight on, never had one go over 50yards, had a few take 3-4 steps and fall over with blood shooting out like a horror movie, for whitetails/muleys/antelope i would use nothing else.
Mostly QAD Exodus - 100 grains. I recently picked up some German Kinetics XL 125 grainers, don't know if I'll have any in the quiver this season or not.
I like mechanicals. I've shot 2 for the last several years. Rage and G5 Havoc. The later one is very solid and I wouldn't hesitate to hunt elk or other larger animals....
Being the color blind [bleep] I am, I use 100gr rage hypodermics with my compound for the massive blood trails my eyes can sometimes pickup in daylight. I'm forced to use BlueStar when it becomes dark while tracking though.
I`m using Grim Reapers this year, 1st time using mechanicals. Shot a little buck,it zipped right through him, we found the arrow 30-35 yards on the other side.
G5 Striker 125gr. Pass through on one broadside bull and about 2/3 penetration on a quartering-to shot. Prior to that I shot the 100gr version of the same head. Got an aaalllllllmost pass through on that year's bull. It poked a hole in the off-side hide but the shaft stayed in the bull. All of those resulted in dead elk within 75 yards or less.
for grouse and rabbits I use G5 small game heads for turkeys I use spitfires for deer I have turned to Rage hypodermic 1.5" 100 gr and for elk I use Magnus buzzcuts
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Have shot 100gr. 4 blade muzzys for years with awesome results. Did however shoot a bear with an expandable this year and it performed awesome. Dead in less than 65 yards. Still on the fence with expandables though after shooting fixed blades for years.
I've used the 100gr Steel force for years but they won't shoot as well from my new bow...a bit too fast to stabilize it properly but love how it works at around 325fps. I had a complete pass thru on a 5 pt bull at 93 yds with my old BowTech Patriot and the Steel force but I shoot Muzzy 100gr 3 blades and 100gr Wac'em's with field point accuracy afrom my BowTech RPM 360. This past years bull was taken with a complete pass thru at 65 yds using the Wac'em. The tip folded a bit going through one of the ribs so I think from that standpoint the Muzzy is a tougher head. You can use either with devastating results but I will lean towards Muzzy's. I
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