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You and others can call me what you will, but that flag is still being lowered and banished as a relict of history as it should have been done more han 150 years ago.You've lost this one. Remember that the sophistication of your response to me is a reflection on the flag you endear.

Since it's in vogue and certainly advocated as the "right thing to do" to remove any flags that were or are the symbols of hate, bigotry, racism, slavery, or any other source of "harm" to an ethnic group in the United States, let's just carry this to it's logical end.

The Washington Post blog op-ed targets these seven flags of Southern States. Even the most tenuous connection to the Confederacy will seemingly be enough for these flags to get changed into something less "hurtful".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...n-in-the-flags-of-seven-southern-states/

curdog4570 brought up the Mexicans taking aim at the Lone Star Flag. Yep, that'll be a target as the Texans "stole" that land from Mexico. Figure, too, that the flags of Arizona, New Mexico, and California will be tallied into that attack as well, and why not? It's clear that those flags were used by "racist aggressors" to steal Mexican land, right?

Most certainly the flag of Hawaii must come down. The formerly free kingdom of Hawaii was stolen away by racist and evil men, and that flag represents the oppression of the Hawaiian people. I suspect the flag of Alaska will be considered similarly, as it should.

The flag of Oklahoma, a territory ceded to the Indian Nations and then stolen back from them, is clearly a racist banner; one showing the totems of a once free people who have been subjugated. It must go. The flag of Wyoming may fall under this scrutiny as well, as it symbolizes the buffalo (a sacred animal to the Plains Indians) that was exterminated in a genocide against those people. The flag of South Dakota, claiming Mount Rushmore, must change as that Mount is a desecration of the Black Hills, sacred to the Sioux nation. The flag of Massachusetts, with its depiction of a Native warrior, must be changed as it is clearly racist.

All of the state flags that feature only men, and especially since they only feature white men, must be changed in order to more properly reflect the culture and diversity present throughout the entire history of those states, including their fights for freedom and their fights against racism and bigotry. That would include: Delaware, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

So, consider these flags to be in the crosshairs and ones that probably ought to be pulled down if we're going to start rewriting history in order to be PC. I am certain that many of the others will also need further examination into their true history and "cultural meaning".

But, if we're REALLY going to do something about banners that hold a legacy and a history of racism, aggression, hate, and all manner of "evil deeds and thoughts", then there is one in particular that must be taken down, banished forever, and replaced with something more benign. Under this banner (or very slight variants thereof), those Mexican lands were stolen. Under this banner, slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, and all the other ills that befell blacks were legal. Under this banner, the Trail of Tears happened. Under this banner, the largest genocide in human history occurred. Under this banner, innocent Asian citizens were sent to "internment camps" and had their lives, livelihoods, and property stolen away. Under this banner, every racial, ethnic, gender-based, and all other discriminatory law, rule, regulation, and program in American history took place.



We cannot overlook the history of that flag any more than we can overlook the history of any other. If one flag must be removed because of the associated history or use, then so too must all the others.

THIS is the logical progression and end of what we are seeing. It cannot be any other.

We all need to realize this, to make this known to those around us and especially those reprehensible beings known as politicians that are supposed to represent us. The end game is clear. Act accordingly.

Well said, Denton.

Well said.

Either we have freedom of speech or we don't. If we have it, both popular and unpopular, sacred and profane, beautiful and disgusting thoughts will be expressed.

Having freedom of speech is better than not having it.

The current contrived outrage over the Confederate flag should be no surprise after decades of politicians trying to teach us to use our government to get redress for imagined victimization. For pity's sake, the last legal slave owner and the last legal slave in the country have both been in the ground for a long time.

If we want to succeed as a country, we really ought to stop the social crusades to impose correctness on people we don't agree with.

Either we have freedom of speech or we don't. If we have it, both popular and unpopular, sacred and profane, beautiful and disgusting thoughts will be expressed.

Having freedom of speech is better than not having it.

The current contrived outrage over the Confederate flag should be no surprise after decades of politicians trying to teach us to use our government to get redress for imagined victimization. For pity's sake, the last legal slave owner and the last legal slave in the country have both been in the ground for a long time.

If we want to succeed as a country, we really ought to stop the social crusades to impose correctness on people we don't agree with.

Either we have freedom of speech or we don't. If we have it, both popular and unpopular, sacred and profane, beautiful and disgusting thoughts will be expressed.

Having freedom of speech is better than not having it.

The current contrived outrage over the Confederate flag should be no surprise after decades of politicians trying to teach us to use our government to get redress for imagined victimization. For pity's sake, the last legal slave owner and the last legal slave in the country have both been in the ground for a long time.

If we want to succeed as a country, we really ought to stop the social crusades to impose correctness on people we don't agree with.

As is the sophistication of Detroit a reflection on yours.

WINNER..

I hold no personal animus to you or those that defend the flag but I stand by my opinion that I am equally right to hold and express as you are yours. Best regards.