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Supreme Court rules 6 - 3, ACA is the law of the land....
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Justice Roberts disappoints again.
---------------------------------------- I'm a big fan of the courtesy flush.
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Saw a procession of trucks with California license plates on my way home from work. I have never seen more California license plates since I have lived here. The rats must be fleeing from the sinking ship.
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Sometimes you have to make a ruling, to see whats in the ruling
"Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid" John Wayne
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Well any hope Roberts ever had of being declared a Constitutionalist jurist went out the window for good. I was hoping he just had a brain fart on the first ruling on ACA but it seems like he has found the liberal kool aid and drank deep.
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I don't like any of it, but I don't believe they were wrong.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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The Republican leadership will be secretly pleased about this as they won't be cast in the role of the Grinches that took away peoples' insurance.
Possibly the worst part of this is that it may forever change the meaning of the word "state" in constitutional law. Lefty Nirvana.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Sure, what could four mega lieberals and a blackmailed traitor possibly get wrong?
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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I don't like any of it, but I don't believe they were wrong. Wasn't the best case if you wanted to do away with ACA. They have to decide the merits of the case, not what you, I, or they just want.
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There's no doubt in my mind that the corrupt Democrats/socialists in our government have something on Roberts and are using it to control him.
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Doubt there will be any more challenges brought before the SC, and this ruling might result in those states that have refused to set up state exchanges to go ahead and do so!
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Justice Scalia's dissent.
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Today’s opinion changes the usual rules of statutory interpretation for the sake of the Affordable Care Act. That, alas, is not a novelty. In National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, 567 U. S. ___, this Court revised major components of the statute in order to save them from unconstitutionality. The Act that Congress passed provides that every individual “shall” maintain insurance or else pay a “penalty.” 26 U. S. C. §5000A. This Court, however, saw that the Commerce Clause does not authorize a federal mandate to buy health insurance. So it rewrote the mandate-cum-penalty as a tax. 567 U. S., at ___–___ (principal opinion) (slip op., at 15–45). The Act that Congress passed also requires every State to accept an expansion of its Medicaid program, or else risk losing all Medicaid funding. 42 U. S. C. §1396c. This Court, however, saw that the Spending Clause does not authorize this coercive condition. So it rewrote the law to withhold only the incremental funds associated with the Medicaid expansion. 567 U. S., at ___–___ (principal opinion) (slip op., at 45–58). Having transformed two major parts of the law, the Court today has turned its attention to a third. The Act that Congress passed makes tax credits available only on an “Exchange established by the State.” This Court, however, concludes that this limitation would prevent the rest of the Act from working as well as hoped. So it rewrites the law to make tax credits available everywhere. We should start calling this law SCOTUScare.
Perhaps the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will attain the enduring status of the Social Security Act or the Taft-Hartley Act; perhaps not. But this Court’s two decisions on the Act will surely be remembered through the years. The somersaults of statutory interpretation they have performed (“penalty” means tax, “further [Medicaid] payments to the State” means only incremental Medicaid payments to the State, “established by the State” means not established by the State) will be cited by litigants endlessly, to the confusion of honest jurisprudence. And the cases will publish forever the discouraging truth that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes to uphold and assist its favorites. I dissent.
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The Supreme court might as well be abolished, since it has no function for the people anymore. It is all just politics, law be damned. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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Yep, when the highest court in the land is on the take, it's game over. There will be no coming back after this.
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They freely admit they ignored the WRITTEN law, and changed the law. They can't do that.
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The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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The ACA, to both Republican and Democrat politicians alike, is about power and money...under the guise of making healthcare available to everyone.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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And there's nothing anybody can do about it,....legally.
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They freely admit they ignored the WRITTEN law, and changed the law. They can't do that. "They", to mean every court, has done this repeatedly and with impunity. Change impunity and you will change repeatedly.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Article 5 Convention. The only hope short of war and dissolution.
And, please, save your cries about how it might turn into a runaway convention and gut the Constitution. Of what use is that worthless document now? The president, congress, and the supreme court ignore it at their whims. They twist it, contort it, and use it as ass paper while the MAJORITY of Americans fume in impotent anger.
Empower an Article 5 convention. Enact new laws as a result. Let the feds defy those, and at least then the blinders will be removed from all and we will at least see our chains for what they are.
You can't be free from bondage unless you first realize that you are in bondage.
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