I see it as a direct assault on everyone's individual freedom of choice. If a woman can legally kill an unborn child, then I ought to be able to say no to baking a damn cake, to anybody that I choose. miles
You should be able to, but you can't. Don't open a cake business if you can't play by those rules unless you're willing to pay the fines.
Luke 21:10 Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. 12 "But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name.
A lot worse is to come. Before it's over, true Christians will be underground but the Lord will be with them. They will be cared for in ways we can't even imagine now.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Sorry man, but that's gotta be the dumbest thing you've written in a long time. Liberals can kill babies but a baker can't deny a liberal a cake w/o facing financial ruin and you don't see the persecution?
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
Sorry man, but that's gotta be the dumbest thing you've written in a long time. Liberals can kill babies but a baker can't deny a liberal a cake w/o facing financial ruin and you don't see the persecution?
I don't see it as persecution. I see it as a misguided effort of a Christian baker to apply his faith to his business. God doesn't make one sin worse than another, but the baker has. I might have more sympathy if he was also refusing adulterers since it is the same sin.
I absolutely don't agree with gay marriage and think homosexuality is a sin. It is no worse than adultery though, and church would be pretty empty if we got rid of adulterers. We are not talking about the government telling church or religion what we have to think. We are talking about public businesses complying with the law of the land. I guess you'd be happier with Jim Crow laws? Or maybe it'd be OK if business were allowed to refuse service to Christians?
I'd have no issue not doing business with someone who refused service to Christians or say gun owners. There are plenty of business out there who serve Christians and are happy to have my business.
If I was gay and there was a company that did not want to serve gays, I would not want my money supporting them.
But hey, we have 94 million Americans not working and the lowest labor participation rate since 1977 so all of these regulations are obviously having no affect on the economy.
The public didn't start and doesn't own my business, I DID and I DO.
The public doesn't do everything, and I won't make you a list, that I do, nor does the public pay my bills, or my taxes. I DO.
It is MY business, I should be able to refuse to serve any damn person, for any damn reason, that I WANT TO!
Do you get that? This is not a public entity, it is MINE.
This is only about spoiled children getting their way at someone, everyone else's expense. Liberals scream for recognition, but I do not have to validate stupidity, nor should I have to serve everyone with MY BUSINESS.
If you think a business is public, stop paying taxes and see who they come after, the owner, or the public.
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_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
Sorry man, but that's gotta be the dumbest thing you've written in a long time. Liberals can kill babies but a baker can't deny a liberal a cake w/o facing financial ruin and you don't see the persecution?
I don't see it as persecution. I see it as a misguided effort of a Christian baker to apply his faith to his business. God doesn't make one sin worse than another, but the baker has. I might have more sympathy if he was also refusing adulterers since it is the same sin.
I absolutely don't agree with gay marriage and think homosexuality is a sin. It is no worse than adultery though, and church would be pretty empty if we got rid of adulterers. We are not talking about the government telling church or religion what we have to think. We are talking about public businesses complying with the law of the land. I guess you'd be happier with Jim Crow laws? Or maybe it'd be OK if business were allowed to refuse service to Christians?
How many adulterers do you know that celebrate their adultery by ordering a cake? And if a business refused to provide me a service, the last thing I would think to do would be to take them to court. I would simply go to the next business. In fact, I do that even if they do serve me, and the service sucks.
The whole idea of "protected classes" reinforces that those people are indeed inferior. I can manage to get a wedding cake, or any other product, without requiring government assistance. Why are the gays, blacks, etc. so incapable?
The public didn't start and doesn't own my business, I DID and I DO.
The public doesn't do everything, and I won't make you a list, that I do, nor does the public pay my bills, or my taxes. I DO.
It is MY business, I should be able to refuse to serve any damn person, for any damn reason, that I WANT TO!
Do you get that? This is not a public entity, it is MINE.
This is only about spoiled children getting their way at someone, everyone else's expense. Liberals scream for recognition, but I do not have to validate stupidity, nor should I have to serve everyone with MY BUSINESS.
If you think a business is public, stop paying taxes and see who they come after, the owner, or the public.
As a business I understand your point. I am still working this out in my mind.
Quite a few actually. By the Bibles definition, lots of marriages are adultery. We tend to ignore those though as they seem less sickening than gay weddings.
The public didn't start and doesn't own my business, I DID and I DO.
The public doesn't do everything, and I won't make you a list, that I do, nor does the public pay my bills, or my taxes. I DO.
It is MY business, I should be able to refuse to serve any damn person, for any damn reason, that I WANT TO!
Do you get that? This is not a public entity, it is MINE.
This is only about spoiled children getting their way at someone, everyone else's expense. Liberals scream for recognition, but I do not have to validate stupidity, nor should I have to serve everyone with MY BUSINESS.
If you think a business is public, stop paying taxes and see who they come after, the owner, or the public.
By those same thoughts, do what you want and see how long you get away with it. You'll see pretty quick that it's not as much your business as you think it is. Just because something should be a certain way doesn't mean it is.
