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Another exam question that drove my students nuts:


What weapon system that was used in the Spanish American War became the predominate weapon system on the Western Front in WWI?


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Maxim?


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Since we have left the Civil War behind and are moving toward WWI. I think we need to not forget the Boer war on the reading and discussion list:

Here are a couple of good Boer War books:

A rather lengthy history:

http://www.amazon.com/Boer-War-Thom...017&sr=8-1&keywords=the+boer+war


A personal account from the Boer perspective:


http://www.amazon.com/Commando-Boer...68&sr=8-22&keywords=the+boer+war

A British Classic:

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Boer-Ar...332&sr=8-3&keywords=the+boer+war

Another Boer War Classic:

http://www.amazon.com/London-Ladysm...ds=From+London+To+Ladysmith+Via+Pretoria




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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Maxim?



Exactly. The Maxim and its machine gun brethren. Now, where were you at when I was teaching this section. I could have used you. smile


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I was going to add the Vickers, you know, the "upside down Maxim" smile


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I was going to add the Vickers, you know, the "upside down Maxim" smile



Don't forget this "jewel":

http://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/mgun_chauchat.htm


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Another exam question that drove my students nuts:


What weapon system that was used in the Spanish American War became the predominate weapon system on the Western Front in WWI?


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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I was going to add the Vickers, you know, the "upside down Maxim" smile



Don't forget this "jewel":

http://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/mgun_chauchat.htm


More on this later!

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Originally Posted by hillbillybear
Another exam question that drove my students nuts:


What weapon system that was used in the Spanish American War became the predominate weapon system on the Western Front in WWI?


7x57. Ingwe charged San Juan Hill with TR to get one. He then started looking for take off stocks, the rest is 24Hour history wink

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The books you mentioned, plus many others about the 2nd Boer War are available for free download at Project Gutenberg.

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A.C. Doyle's narrative is the least biased from that time period.



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Originally Posted by hillbillybear

Was this the same regiment that was involved at Rourke's Drift?


No, that was elements of 24th of Foot, the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment, with a few other Support troops as well...

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Ok. I'll try again. Only the fifth time I've tried to post only to be told there was an occurrence that required a total shut down and reload.

The Chauchat was the first real endeavor in the development of what we know now as the squad assault weapon. The team consisted of a gunner and two asst. gunners. The a gunners were fitted with extra magazines. It was there duty to to watch the big slots in the mags and when ammo was depleted have a fresh one ready. Here was about the only real drawback the french had with the gun. Mags suceptable to mud etc.

The French also put the gunners and a gunners thru a three month course on the guns. Tactics ( walking fire), care and maintenance and shooting. The Americans had 2 weeks training with the guns before heading off to the front. The BIGGEST ISSUE with the guns and the doughboys was withthe guns the Americans tried to convert to 30/06 ctg. Several important parts were left out of the bolt assembly!

When you look at the old photos, as added security, you always see a poilu with his gun in transport case, on his way to front. The doughboys never use the transport case as suggested.

There are several operational Chauchats here locally in our little group of WWI hobbyist. One has recently been transferred to a new owner. I had one for a while, but I no longer have it in my possession. wink. Gone the way of the dodo!

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Boer War Trivia Time!!!

Name the famous Boer officer and hero who was later called "The Man Who Killed Kitchener"?

Extra credit!!!

Where was he captured and during what later conflict???

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Frederick “Fritz” Joubert Duquesne. Captured as leader of a German spy ring in the U.S. during WWII. The claim for killing Kitchner has never been substantiated.


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Correct on all accounts. Good one Gadfly! Well done!


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Boer War Trivia Time!!!

Name the famous Boer officer and hero who was later called "The Man Who Killed Kitchener"?



I thought Lord Kitchener was killed in WW1 when a German U-boat sank the British warship he was travelling in?

IIRC, it was near Scapa Flow, and the warship either hit mines laid by the U-boat, and/or was also torpedoed...

Due to this happening in a terrible storm, there were hardly any survivors and Lord Kitchener body was never recovered..

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It's easy to understand Duquesne's hatred of the British, in general and Kitchener in particular, and why he wanted credit for Kitchener's demise. So much of what was wrong with the Empire was displayed in the 2nd Boer war. Breaker Morant was shot for killing guerrilla combatants. Horatio Kitchner killed 26,000 woman and children and was made an Earl. The only true British hero of the war was Emily Hobhouse.


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Duquesne always stated thru his espionage, he supplied the German navy with the Intel Of Kitchener leaving scotland bound for Russia. So he never let a good incident go to waste !


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Duquesne always stated thru his espionage, he supplied the German navy with the Intel Of Kitchener leaving scotland bound for Russia. So he never let a good incident go to waste !

Gadfly, I believe Duquesne's mom and lil sis were some of those that died at Bloemfontain (sic). Weren't they?


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Duquesne always stated thru his espionage, he supplied the German navy with the Intel Of Kitchener leaving scotland bound for Russia. So he never let a good incident go to waste !

Gadfly, I believe Duquesne's mom and lil sis were some of those that died at Bloemfontain (sic). Weren't they?


The family farm was razed by the British, his sister raped and killed, with his mother later dying in a concentration camp.


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